UFO hearing: Whistleblower tells House subcommittee that U.S. government is ‘absolutely’ in possession of unidentified craft

Grusch also was asked if the U.S. has the bodies of pilots who flew any unidentified craft, and he responded that “biologics came with some of these recoveries” and that they were “nonhuman.”

In addition, Grusch testified that he was informed in the course of his official duties of a “multidecade UAP crash-retrieval and reverse-engineering program to which I was denied access.” He had been an officer with the Defense Department’s National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency before becoming a whistleblower.

His remarks came during a much-anticipated hearing held by the House Oversight Committee’s subpanel for national security. Grusch has made similar comments to media outlets NewsNation and The Debrief.

Grusch’s other claims on Wednesday included that he had personal knowledge of people who have been injured in cover-ups of extraterrestrial technology and that he has faced “very brutal” retaliation since becoming a whistleblower.

A Pentagon spokeswoman has pushed back against Grusch’s comments, telling the Associated Press that investigators have not discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.”

Another witness at Wednesday’s hearing, David Fravor, a retired Navy commander for the Black Aces squadron, testified under oath that he believed UAPs posed a threat to national security. He’s known for being one of the Navy pilots who said they encountered a UFO with the shape of a Tic Tac candy in 2004.

“The technology that we faced was far superior than anything that we had, and you could put that anywhere,” Fravor said. He also said he’s concerned “that there’s no oversight from our elected officials” on the U.S. government’s work related to UAPs.

During the hearing, Democratic and Republican lawmakers promised to do more on the issue of unidentified craft.

“I think one of the clear outcomes of this hearing already is that there has to be a safe and transparent reporting process for pilots, both on the commercial side and the military side, to be able to report UAPs,” Democratic Rep. Robert Garcia of California said.

“I hope this is just the beginning of many more hearings, more people coming forward about this,” Republican Rep. Tim Burchett of Tennessee said.

When asked about Wednesday’s UFO hearing, White House spokesman John Kirby said during a press briefing that U.S. officials “need to be as transparent as we can be, but the truth is … we don’t have hard-and-fast answers on these things.”